This Tuesday Roger Olson, professor of theology at George W. Truett Theological Seminary at Baylor College offered an interpretation of that same event from the perspective of an Arminian doctrine of God. Here's an excerpt:The meaning of the collapse of this bridge is that John Piper is a sinner and should repent or forfeit his life forever. That means I should turn from the silly preoccupations of my life and focus my mind’s attention and my heart’s affection on God and embrace Jesus Christ as my only hope for the forgiveness of my sins and for the hope of eternal life. That is God’s message in the collapse of this bridge. That is his most merciful message: there is still time to turn from sin and unbelief and destruction for those of us who live. If we could see the eternal calamity from which he is offering escape we would hear this as the most precious message in the world.
We prayed during our family devotions. Talitha (11 years old) and Noel and I prayed earnestly for the families affected by the calamity and for the others in our city. Talitha prayed “Please don’t let anyone blame God for this but give thanks that they were saved.” When I sat on her bed and tucked her in and blessed her and sang over her a few minutes ago, I said, “You know, Talitha, that was a good prayer, because when people ‘blame’ God for something, they are angry with him, and they are saying that he has done something wrong. That’s what “blame” means: accuse somebody of wrongdoing. But you and I know that God did not do anything wrong. God always does what is wise. And you and I know that God could have held up that bridge with one hand.” Talitha said, “With his pinky.” “Yes,” I said, “with his pinky. Which means that God had a purpose for not holding up that bridge, knowing all that would happen, and he is infinitely wise in all that he wills.”
In this world, because of our ignorance and sinfulness, really bad things sometimes happen and people do really evil and wicked things. Not because God secretly plans and prods them, but because God has said to fallen, sinful people, "OK, not my will then, but thine be done -- for now."
And God says, "Pray because sometimes I can intervene to stop innocent suffering when people pray; that's one of my self-limitations. I don't want to do it all myself; I want your involvement and partnership in making this a better world."
It's a different picture of God than most conservative Christians grew up with, but it's the only one (so far as I can tell) that relieves God of responsibility for sin and evil and disaster and calamity.
The God of Calvinism scares me; I'm not sure how to distinguish him from the devil. If you've come under the influence of Calvinism, think about its ramifications for the character of God. God is great but also good. In light of all the evil and innocent suffering in the world, he must have limited himself.
I admit I wholeheartedly embrace and relish the Calvinistic doctrine of God. I find it difficult to imagine life apart from it. I also find the interpretation of evil offered by it personally satisfying. But when I delve deeply into this issue (which I am all for by the way), I encounter difficulties that seem to be insurmountable for fallen human understanding. Those are the places, in the hard work of loving God with all my mind, that I fall to my knees in awe and offer up sacrifices of praise to my infinitely beautiful God.
As the two excerpts above demonstrate, the contrast between the views is striking. There are basically two ways of interpreting the evil in this world with respect to the doctrine of God. Fundamentally, we must either admit a limitation in God (i.e. the autonomy of his moral creatures) or a limitation in ourselves (i.e. extreme difficulty in reconciling a paradox in God's revelation). Notwithstanding what I view as the clear testimony of Holy Scripture, I am much more comfortable with the latter. The English Puritan Stephen Charnock has put it rather wisely:
But what if the foreknowledge of God, and the liberty of the will, cannot be fully reconciled by man? Shall we therefore deny the perfection in God to support a liberty in ourselves? Shall we rather fasten ignorance upon God, and accuse him of blindness to maintain our liberty?
The Arminian says: Rather than blaming God for evil, let's blame him for ignorance instead.
The Calvinist says: Rather than blaming God for ignorance, let's blame ourselves for ignorance instead.
(HT: JT)




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And God says, "Pray because sometimes I can intervene to stop innocent suffering when people pray; that's one of my self-limitations. I don't want to do it all myself; I want your involvement and partnership in making this a better world."
Normally, I'm a pretty mild-mannered guy, but this blasphemy turns my stomach and chaps my hide all at the same time.
May God have mercy on one who belittles God with such thoughts. May He forgive them, for they know not what they do.
As I read Olson's article I thought to myself, "Well, at least he is willing to be clear about what he believes."
I have rarely read professors from the Arminian perspective be so clear about their belief.
Great post Jay!
Thanks Tony.
Tomorrows the big day huh? First worship service in the new sanctuary at Redeemer. Exciting!
It went great. Very daunting though. My only personal feeling is inadequacy.
Olson's view sounds like "Open Theism." In my opinion, a God who 'limits' himself is no different than you and I...But you and I are not God. Where does that leave us?
Tony,
I'm glad it went well. I rejoice with you. On inadequacy, I have been thinking about the WCF's use of the word sincerity in describing assurance in 18.1. I think the divines must have used the word in order to differentiate between hypocrisy and true religion, which is a sincere love. However, I cannot help but wonder how the word "sincerity" is helpful beyond that. What does it mean to love God "in sincerity." If it means with pure motives, then there is no hope for any of us. It must then mean to love him with a heart of repentance, realizing that I am never really sincere. In other words, sincerity in loving God is fundamentally knowing that I can never be sincere this side of glory. I don't know if that is what they had in mind, but it's what I've come to so far. Any thoughts?
Kampfgruppe Hoppa,
I agree. Ultimately it leaves us with no God, which is anarchical tyranny.
Olson's view does sound very much like Open Theism. I'm pretty sure he would not say that though. He would probably call his view some sort of semi-Arminianism or modified Calvinism (e.g. he probably holds to the doctrine of eternal security).
Fundamentally, Open Theism is different from Arminianism in that it denies the classic definition of the omniscience of God. Arminiansim maintains it. However, in doing that, the system is, in my view, inconsistent and doesn't really resolve the tension between divine and human agency as it purports to do. I think of Open Theism as a consistent form of Arminianism. And, as you have pointed out, it leaves us with a God who is no more God than we are.
Jay, I think you have nailed it precisely. "Sincerity" for us is a bit like "righteous anger". I'm not sure I've ever had that...at least not in it's purest form.
Tony, me neither. If sincerity is pure motives, I've never been sincere, and I mean that with the utmost sincerity. :-)
Wow, I did as Pastor Tony suggested and check Jay's blog. Pretty powerful stuff! I was most blessed when I read Jay's blog sheet and found out he was a top grad at DTS. Great and embolden move, from narrow minded dispensational theology to the purity of becoming refreshingly reformed.
Woody from Redeemer
Thanks Woody! Your words are very encouraging.
Although I love my teachers and am very thankful for the education I received at DTS, a fellow Dallas grad (who is also seeking ordained ministry in the PCA) and I joke about how the longer we were at DTS the more convinced we became that dispensationalism wasn't the best biblical hermeneutic.
Dear Brother Jay,
I just returned from my 7th mission trip to the poor country of Moldova. I had the honor of representing Redeemer and being part of mission team of 3. On the last Jewish Sabbath we were there, I had the privilege of bringing God’s message to a most unusual fellowship. Pastor Grigore Brugarie and Pastor Victor Pruntintine, shepherd and lead the poorest of the poor at the “Shalom Baptist Church.” The gathering was small, but there were 13 Messianic Believers present that day and, PRIASE THE LORD, 3 remaining Holocaust survivors, New Creatures in Christ, are still among the humble worshipers. (At one time, most of the congregations were survivors, but all but 3 have gone on to be with Jesus. What a ministry to folks who have lived sufferings beyond our imaginations!)
I also had the joy of sharing the pulpit with another new brother in Christ. His name was Constantine Alexanderscv. He is Romanian evangelist and received his doctorate from Dallas Theological Seminary and was also the professor of Hermeneutics. What a joy to find out he was good friends with whom I call my radio, spiritual mentor, Chuck Swindol.
Constantine has been supporting the work of Jewish believers since 1994. I preached on Philemon, “A Person of Grace or A Prisoner on Unforgiveness” and was honored when Brother Constantine asked for my notes.
Just wondering if you happen to know of him?
Woody,
Wow! Great to hear about your mission to the people of Moldova. I have yet to have the privelege of preaching the gospel overseas. I look forward to it with great anticipation should the Lord choose to grant an opportunity.
Constantine sounds familiar. I met a few Eastern European brothers and sisters while at DTS. I'm at the office and can't remember my password for the DTS alumni site, but I'll log in tonight and look him up. I may recognize his school photo. If so, I'll drop him a note and let you know.
Blessings to you,
Jay
Woody,
I checked the DTS alumni site for Constantine, nut couldn't find his name listed. He sure sounds familiar.
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